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	<title>Comments on: Will Adobe Announce A ColdFusion IDE At MAX???</title>
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		<title>By: Phillip Gagnon</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2008/11/12/will-adobe-announce-a-coldfusion-ide-at-max/#comment-1075</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Gagnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless they are planning on going the &quot;microsoft&quot; route. That is to say, the server will be free (like Railo or BD, or maybe just cheap), and the IDE will be where they make their money....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless they are planning on going the &#8220;microsoft&#8221; route. That is to say, the server will be free (like Railo or BD, or maybe just cheap), and the IDE will be where they make their money&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: johans</title>
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		<dc:creator>johans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would be nice to have Flex Builder handle CF as well - certainly seems logical given that CF integrates nicely with Flex apps.

The one downside is that Eclipse cannot write BOMs in UTF-8 files (it can read them). Which means you have to add processing directives to your CF templates - I wish they would update CF to make UTF-8 processing the complier default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be nice to have Flex Builder handle CF as well &#8211; certainly seems logical given that CF integrates nicely with Flex apps.</p>
<p>The one downside is that Eclipse cannot write BOMs in UTF-8 files (it can read them). Which means you have to add processing directives to your CF templates &#8211; I wish they would update CF to make UTF-8 processing the complier default.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - that is my one concern with an Adobe IDE - why would they support Railo/OpenBD - their competitors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; that is my one concern with an Adobe IDE &#8211; why would they support Railo/OpenBD &#8211; their competitors?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gladnick</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2008/11/12/will-adobe-announce-a-coldfusion-ide-at-max/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gladnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOooooh!  That would be quite interesting, CFEclipse is due for an upgrade.  This will also provide a nice market for Adobe to fill as some customers drop their CF servers for Railo/BD, but will still buy the IDE from Adobe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOooooh!  That would be quite interesting, CFEclipse is due for an upgrade.  This will also provide a nice market for Adobe to fill as some customers drop their CF servers for Railo/BD, but will still buy the IDE from Adobe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2008/11/12/will-adobe-announce-a-coldfusion-ide-at-max/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do wonder about the cost.

We currently use CFE and have licenses for Dreamweaver and FlexBuilder.

If Adobe does charge for this new IDE it&#039;s going to be tough to sell (at least here) when we have already paid for DW (but no one uses) and we have FB and CFEclipse (which work fine).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wonder about the cost.</p>
<p>We currently use CFE and have licenses for Dreamweaver and FlexBuilder.</p>
<p>If Adobe does charge for this new IDE it&#8217;s going to be tough to sell (at least here) when we have already paid for DW (but no one uses) and we have FB and CFEclipse (which work fine).</p>
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		<title>By: Dutch Rapley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dutch Rapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be an eclipse plugin, and will be called ColdFusion Builder (or something along those lines). Just like FlexBuilder and Aptana Studio(not an Adobe product), you can install it as a standalone app or as a plugin to a current eclipse install. You could even add the plugin to FlexBuilder standalone (which is, of course, an eclipse isntall).

It won&#039;t be free. It&#039;ll probably cost somewhere between $99 -$249.

CFEclipse has been quiet. Mark Drew, the Lead Developer, has recently been asked to take over the reins for Reactor (database abstraction framework). I imagine that has something to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be an eclipse plugin, and will be called ColdFusion Builder (or something along those lines). Just like FlexBuilder and Aptana Studio(not an Adobe product), you can install it as a standalone app or as a plugin to a current eclipse install. You could even add the plugin to FlexBuilder standalone (which is, of course, an eclipse isntall).</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t be free. It&#8217;ll probably cost somewhere between $99 -$249.</p>
<p>CFEclipse has been quiet. Mark Drew, the Lead Developer, has recently been asked to take over the reins for Reactor (database abstraction framework). I imagine that has something to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Cyr</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2008/11/12/will-adobe-announce-a-coldfusion-ide-at-max/#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Cyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know nothing about any of it, and hadn&#039;t even thought of Flex and CF IDE in one.  Would be VERY handy though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know nothing about any of it, and hadn&#8217;t even thought of Flex and CF IDE in one.  Would be VERY handy though.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepthroat</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2008/11/12/will-adobe-announce-a-coldfusion-ide-at-max/#comment-1068</link>
		<dc:creator>Deepthroat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(A shadowy figure in a dark room)

I got to question an intoxicated Mark Drew at CFUnited &#039;08 about if he and Adobe were partnering on a new CF IDE, and his silence on the issue was deafening.

Also, I would assume that any CF IDE would be an eclipse plugin, which would work with any Eclipse environment, including Flex Builder. So there&#039;s a couple cool features that are available when you have both installed... That&#039;s really not much different than CFEclipse and FlexBuilder right now.</description>
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<p>I got to question an intoxicated Mark Drew at CFUnited &#8217;08 about if he and Adobe were partnering on a new CF IDE, and his silence on the issue was deafening.</p>
<p>Also, I would assume that any CF IDE would be an eclipse plugin, which would work with any Eclipse environment, including Flex Builder. So there&#8217;s a couple cool features that are available when you have both installed&#8230; That&#8217;s really not much different than CFEclipse and FlexBuilder right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tariq Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tariq Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HomeSite CS4. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HomeSite CS4. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thecrumb.com/2008/11/12/will-adobe-announce-a-coldfusion-ide-at-max/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie - I didn&#039;t think about that but it sort of makes sense... But then do you get into the slippery slope of Dreamweaver where you try to stuff too much into one tool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie &#8211; I didn&#8217;t think about that but it sort of makes sense&#8230; But then do you get into the slippery slope of Dreamweaver where you try to stuff too much into one tool?</p>
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